I was Rping at Clan Carnage with Regent Smyle not too long ago, and we got into a dispute that was eventually 'slightly' resolved. So we're talking over AIM right? And the guy was like talking about old school and new school forms of Role playing, then he says to me: Old school is all about called hits and perfect defense. I'm like taken aback by this, a so-called veteran role player telling me this, i was ... totally taken away, i mean damn... >.< Is it just me or is this old school style just an excuse not to further ones talents in the area of Role Play Fueds and fighting?
Old School VS. New School Forms of RP
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 Prophet of Enoch |
Old School VS. New School Forms of RP |
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Posts: 78 (08/14/04 20:27:40) He who is Eternal
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Yasraena |
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Posts: 850 (08/26/04 11:29:33) Administrator |
OOO very Interesting.....
Old School and New School forms of Role Playing Some one want to define that? And my second question is What sort of roleplaying does this perosn refer too? I mean we have live action, tabletop, freeform, specically Writing freeform or chat free form etc. Does this apply to all three or only freeform? Hmmm maybe you can find this person and we could discuss it further here? Hmmmm Very Interesting indeed. |
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Prophet of Enoch |
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Posts: 78 (08/28/04 03:46:00) He who is Eternal
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Actually, his incompetence is only rivaled by his arrogance. I highly doubt he'd think twice about even discussing anything about why he role plays in a form we call god modding and or cheating.
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Asteria Vastrunez |
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Posts: 576 (08/29/04 21:34:34) Administrator |
He did a post here... prior to his characters movement he had at least 5 obsticals to deal with.. ....deciding to completly ignore them step over them and do a kill in one post.........
His rp was or course contested and called.. and several of us recieved AIM's on how ONE person that walked into the post ruined the entire kill for him... He has no concept of actual rping.. and the fact that you can not just post and have it happen no matter what is going on around you or what others are doing... Met I can not believe you actually unforturnatly had to waste your time with the old style of rp.. with this individual.. *Runs and grabs Met killing him *  VALID I KNOW IT IS !!!!!
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xatunix |
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Posts: 7 (08/30/04 10:06:57) |
well, before you all start start shooting Smyle...
Old School is all about self control... you control what YOUR attacks do, the other has to find a way out of it. In a way, it is one of the best exercises in damage control I have ever been able to lay eyes upon. Instead of simply dodging everything (which many do, despite normal physics rules), you get a situation and you have to find a way out... Of course, the only way you can ever use OS publicly is by insuring that all the participating rp'ers are decent rp'ers... if you get a noob into OS, the fun is completely ruined. New school focuses more on dodging, which can also be seen very annoying, when people start to dodge to the absurd. Both schools have their advantages and disadvantages, (in my eyes) none of the two is clearly superior to the other. Yes, Met, if you are encountered with an OS'er when you yourself play NS all the time, it will be a very big culture shock, but that is just like in RL... give the new culture a chance first before you begin shooting it! my two cents... |
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Asteria Vastrunez |
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Posts: 576 (08/30/04 11:51:33) Administrator |
I was not shooting anyone. It was my opinion.. I live in America....it is considered a right
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shar thrityh |
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Posts: 14 (08/31/04 03:20:41) |
yes, you're right ast, you are allowed to express your opinion, but as always, the manner you formulate it in matters alot...
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Prophet of Enoch |
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Posts: 78 (08/31/04 03:46:12) He who is Eternal
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*Cries silently* GOD!!! I can't get away from this guy, Krist Irenicus killed him and then said i did it!! Attracting the attention of the n00b outlet!!
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Yasraena |
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Posts: 850 (08/31/04 04:18:02) Administrator |
LMFAO!!!!!!!!
That is a bunch of bullshit excuses for roleplaying in bad form. There is no new school or old school RP there is simply what is called commom decencey and fairness. Your all messed in the head ...whats wrong with you? lmao hhehe Course we know whats wrong with Ast....-=shhhhh=- She hears voices ya knows -=whispers to herself=- FREAKS 
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Asteria Vastrunez |
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Posts: 576 (08/31/04 05:27:07) Administrator |
hehe
So after you have been killed in one post you try to figure out how to get out of it .... NOW that makes ALOT of sense to me !!! |
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Yasraena |
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Posts: 850 (08/31/04 09:27:40) Administrator |
This is a great discussion and all but please lets keep it clean no flaming remarks.
-= silly silly =- |
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VaIkyrie |
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Posts: 23 (08/31/04 09:50:41) |
I'm far from an expert in the ways of RP, but I would like to take a stab at adding to this discussion.
Old School - The RP style of called hits & 'perfect'(?) defense. A point I made to Smyle the other day was this.. a called hit, once posted is just that.. a hit that was called already. What defense is there at this point? True, one could lessen the blow.. deflect it somewhat, etc.. but truly in the case of a 'called hit' there is no 'perfect defense' as it has already happened. New School (which, by the way sounds really stupid. lol) - The RP style of setting up attacks.. a more thought out offensive.. no called hits. In my opinion / experience, the better thought out / written an offensive move is.. the less likely it can be rightfully dodged. In either case, controlling of your opponent's actions is poor form. I personally prefer the 'new school' RP style, as I feel it is more challenging to RP and quite frankly, far more interesting reading. Just my 2 cents worth.. who knew 2 cents could go so far huh? |
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Lothed |
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Posts: 2 (07/28/06 08:52:04) |
hehehe
Heya Gang .. well I have to chime in on this as well. Like Val .. i in no way consider myself an expert .. but like to think i know a few things hehe. From what I've read this whole Old School and the new sounds like someones sad excuse for a reason to god mod. "I'm Old School so you die and I didnt even get scratched. boooya! I win!" Now maybe you can call the old ways of rping Old school .. though I wouldnt. RP has grown over the years and has even created ethics. Example: you do not control another characters actions .. this we all agree on, unless of coarse you have permission to do so. Old School is the all powerfull and all knowing and back in the days .. that was nearly everyone .. and it kind of sucked .. character killing as at an all time high .. and most of the time turned into drama ect. "You cant do that" "I just did .. cuase im Uba!" i say Lame not Old School. RPing has changed for the better, people are actually putting thought into their actions .. or reactions as it were. People nowa days are using some simple logic, when attacking or attemping to dodge. Well for the most poart people are .. I know I do anyways. People need to rememebr no one walks away from a good fight unhurt. I know Lothed always bleeding after a fight. and why? Cuase you cant dodge everything and your not always fast enough hehehe this so call new school to me is the evolution of RolePlaying Old players get smart and new players learn from the vets. if they say they Old School .. tell them theres a new teacher and he aint using the old text book. hehe just my 2 cents 
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Posts: 7 (10/12/06 10:11:04) |
well rp is based upon an action and then a reaction between two people, there are so many conditions and possibilies that could happen. I remember when I was first started Domarr had a run in with this rper as DamageInc, I learned alot. Sifting out the crap, and applying the good. Consulting with Azrael and observing other duesl between the great ¨old syle¨ rpers, i guess you could call them that, I formed my opnion.
It all about wording. *Domarr hurls a giant ball of fire and renders *foe* a pile of ash* Is crap, thats god modding *Domarr hurls a giant ball of fire towards *foe*, if contact is made it would render *foe* to a pile of ash* is better. Or *DiRamon brings his sword downward upon his foe with enough force to sever his arm* Is a simpler example. Now its my opnion that *DiRamon slashes at his foe* Is crap as well, much to general, and should also be avoided. |
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